as a rule, i soft pedal mention of hell because i donn't really think it does a lot of good to threaten non-believers with so patent and obvious a punishment. nonetheless, i try to lead mylistener to the realizatiion that it might, it just might, be possible that there is such a condition to existence, and the absolute horror of its reality, to be permanently shut off or out from the source of love, the truth abooooout all love, because one stubbornly clings to one's own self-righteousness and one's own self-indulgent habits. hell Is real, i believe. we should from time to time just entertain the possibility. reverend doug hinks that is way too light. he likes to tell it like he sees it, which is the righteous anger of an all perfect and all good God confronted with man's overwhelming sinfulness. it's something for an atheist to consdier, and there are a lot f profesing aheists who aren't even honest enough to come forward and admit that that is what they really are. they know better than God. they have attained to a superior understanding. and they are rife and rampant in the Church of God, especially today.